- Author
- Posted by meetpateltech, with replies from many commenters
- Published
- 5 August 2025
- Kind
- Hacker News discussion thread
- Original
- news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44799479
- Subject
- Audio models and analysis
- Themes
- Art through code, Who holds the power
What it is
The user meetpateltech posted a link to ElevenLabs' announcement titled Eleven Music is here. Commenters argue about art, jobs, training data and sound quality. Some musicians describe how it affects their own motivation.
What it says
- Many commenters object that AI music is generic and cuts into musicians' income.
- Others reply that people always called new music tools the end of real art.
- TheAceOfHearts found Eleven Music had crisper instruments but poor pacing and pronunciation.
- neom says Suno is night and day better. NBJack says Eleven Music sounds a few years old.
- stillpointlab calls current models slot machines and wants iterative tools for musicians.
- bjt asks about training data. matthewfcarlson quotes a page clearing nearly all commercial uses; bjt says that skips training permission.
- Early users report a 2k character prompt limit and a track that would not play.
What evidence it gives
The thread is opinion, anecdote and a few listening comparisons. Commenters link tracks but offer no blind tests or measurements. Some factual claims, such as chart counts, are disputed in replies. The linked ElevenLabs post was not read.
Interests and limits
Hacker News commenters are self-selected, and tone in this thread is mostly negative. Many comments are about AI art in general, not this product. The launch was new, so bugs reported may have been fixed. Comparisons with Suno rest on a few tracks each. Claims about the training data are unproven in the thread.